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		<title>By: Mat</title>
		<link>http://web1979.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/a-vc-gone-mad/#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, very interesting post you linked to there.  I&#039;m going to sit on that for a bit, digest it, let it age and come back to it again.

Thanks Sylvain!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, very interesting post you linked to there.  I&#8217;m going to sit on that for a bit, digest it, let it age and come back to it again.</p>
<p>Thanks Sylvain!</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvain Carle</title>
		<link>http://web1979.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/a-vc-gone-mad/#comment-933</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvain Carle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“People will burn out on these presence-based tools. They’re such a productivity drain (despite what many boosters might say). It seems Matthew Ingram is inclined to agree”

That’s exactly what was being said about blogs too. I think that when new communication patterns emerge, it takes a while to “get” why they are important or useful.

These communication methods do provide something… we just don’t know exactly what.

Yesterday I read about “phatic communications”… got me thinking a bit :

“But there is another, anthropological, point of view. Exhaust data is, I think, a clear case of “phatic communication.” This is communication with little hard, informational content, but lots of emotional and social content. Phatic communications doesn’t get much said, but it has social effects so powerful, it gets lots done. ”

http://www.cultureby.com/trilogy/2007/07/how-social-netw.html

Anyhow, keep pounding on the issue, it sure is tought provoking. And yeah, just ot make sure this comment will be well read, I will post a link to it on twitter ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“People will burn out on these presence-based tools. They’re such a productivity drain (despite what many boosters might say). It seems Matthew Ingram is inclined to agree”</p>
<p>That’s exactly what was being said about blogs too. I think that when new communication patterns emerge, it takes a while to “get” why they are important or useful.</p>
<p>These communication methods do provide something… we just don’t know exactly what.</p>
<p>Yesterday I read about “phatic communications”… got me thinking a bit :</p>
<p>“But there is another, anthropological, point of view. Exhaust data is, I think, a clear case of “phatic communication.” This is communication with little hard, informational content, but lots of emotional and social content. Phatic communications doesn’t get much said, but it has social effects so powerful, it gets lots done. ”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cultureby.com/trilogy/2007/07/how-social-netw.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cultureby.com/trilogy/2007/07/how-social-netw.html</a></p>
<p>Anyhow, keep pounding on the issue, it sure is tought provoking. And yeah, just ot make sure this comment will be well read, I will post a link to it on twitter <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Blowing Back &#171; web1979</title>
		<link>http://web1979.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/a-vc-gone-mad/#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator>Blowing Back &#171; web1979</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 04:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the puzzlement and consternation in the blogosphere following the funding of Twitter (to which I contributed), lead me wonder why the hell we pay such lip service to new media in the first place? If [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the puzzlement and consternation in the blogosphere following the funding of Twitter (to which I contributed), lead me wonder why the hell we pay such lip service to new media in the first place? If [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pop</title>
		<link>http://web1979.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/a-vc-gone-mad/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>Pop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few days on the web news: Twitter&#8217;s absence of business model. A VC company funded them despite of this - I even read a post of some guy defending it: Business [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] few days on the web news: Twitter&#8217;s absence of business model. A VC company funded them despite of this &#8211; I even read a post of some guy defending it: Business [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Wright</title>
		<link>http://web1979.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/a-vc-gone-mad/#comment-886</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 02:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twitter has some interesting potential here because Google/Yahoo/MSN like to acquire things that make users sticky...  Grab Twitter for 50m, switch their users over to the centralized authentication system (endure the inevitable outrage, a la Flickr), and you&#039;ve got a new constituency of users (and have made existing users a bit more sticky).

Was de.icio.us a good buy?  Was Flickr?  Netsape?  Cobalt?  Dodgeball?

How many acquisitions wither away after the purchase?  How many under-perform?

I&#039;d be interested to know how many web company acquisitions have enough revenue attributed to them after the buy to justify the purchase price (and the integration price).  I&#039;d guess that darn few do.

The question for Twitter, at the end of the day, is whether it can sell.  I&#039;d be willing to bet that it can and will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter has some interesting potential here because Google/Yahoo/MSN like to acquire things that make users sticky&#8230;  Grab Twitter for 50m, switch their users over to the centralized authentication system (endure the inevitable outrage, a la Flickr), and you&#8217;ve got a new constituency of users (and have made existing users a bit more sticky).</p>
<p>Was de.icio.us a good buy?  Was Flickr?  Netsape?  Cobalt?  Dodgeball?</p>
<p>How many acquisitions wither away after the purchase?  How many under-perform?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to know how many web company acquisitions have enough revenue attributed to them after the buy to justify the purchase price (and the integration price).  I&#8217;d guess that darn few do.</p>
<p>The question for Twitter, at the end of the day, is whether it can sell.  I&#8217;d be willing to bet that it can and will.</p>
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		<title>By: unixshell</title>
		<link>http://web1979.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/a-vc-gone-mad/#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator>unixshell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 01:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But surely this whole &quot;Web2.0&quot; fad is just an attempt to re-create the dot-com bubble of 1999/2000; just a bunch of copycats who have seen that &quot;those guys over there made a load of cash for doing f*ck all work - let&#039;s do that again!&quot;

The web had developed far more over the 1991-1999 period, than it has done from 1999-2007. I hadn&#039;t noticed before now, but that&#039;s a nice even split, 8 years per side. The first 8 years were far more invigorating; we didn&#039;t have the media types on our backs, nor the money-thirsty VCs. Amazon was &quot;whoa, don&#039;t push things too far, guys&quot;; Google was yet another academic idea.

The second byte of the Web&#039;s life has been far less pleasant. 

Geeks develop something cool. Media types notice that it is, actually, cool. Business types pay the Media types to get them into it. Lawyers get involved. Media plays up the new tech. Bad (or no) business plan leads to upset customers. Media continues to hype the new stuff.
.... time goes on ....
we&#039;re all used to ebay, amazon, whatever... it&#039;s in danger of becoming old news
... media come up with &quot;Web2.0&quot; to recreate the original dot-com bubble; after all, if hyping nearly-working technology worked in 1999, it should work in 2007 with prettier logos, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But surely this whole &#8220;Web2.0&#8243; fad is just an attempt to re-create the dot-com bubble of 1999/2000; just a bunch of copycats who have seen that &#8220;those guys over there made a load of cash for doing f*ck all work &#8211; let&#8217;s do that again!&#8221;</p>
<p>The web had developed far more over the 1991-1999 period, than it has done from 1999-2007. I hadn&#8217;t noticed before now, but that&#8217;s a nice even split, 8 years per side. The first 8 years were far more invigorating; we didn&#8217;t have the media types on our backs, nor the money-thirsty VCs. Amazon was &#8220;whoa, don&#8217;t push things too far, guys&#8221;; Google was yet another academic idea.</p>
<p>The second byte of the Web&#8217;s life has been far less pleasant. </p>
<p>Geeks develop something cool. Media types notice that it is, actually, cool. Business types pay the Media types to get them into it. Lawyers get involved. Media plays up the new tech. Bad (or no) business plan leads to upset customers. Media continues to hype the new stuff.<br />
&#8230;. time goes on &#8230;.<br />
we&#8217;re all used to ebay, amazon, whatever&#8230; it&#8217;s in danger of becoming old news<br />
&#8230; media come up with &#8220;Web2.0&#8243; to recreate the original dot-com bubble; after all, if hyping nearly-working technology worked in 1999, it should work in 2007 with prettier logos, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Top Posts &#171; WordPress.com</title>
		<link>http://web1979.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/a-vc-gone-mad/#comment-883</link>
		<dc:creator>Top Posts &#171; WordPress.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A VC Gone Mad? So it&#8217;s time to revisit Twitter. The news today that Fred Wilson&#8217;s Union Square Ventures has funded Twitter [&#8230;] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A VC Gone Mad? So it&#8217;s time to revisit Twitter. The news today that Fred Wilson&#8217;s Union Square Ventures has funded Twitter [&#8230;] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: matbalez</title>
		<link>http://web1979.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/a-vc-gone-mad/#comment-881</link>
		<dc:creator>matbalez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an absurd argument - you can&#039;t just play the Google card, and expect to be taken seriously.

Tomorrow morning, I could decide to start a business involving leaving old banana peels outside my door.  Do I know how I will make money?  Nope!  But I suppose I should take heart, because Google didn&#039;t know either!  Who needs a plan?  Perhaps I should just retire now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an absurd argument &#8211; you can&#8217;t just play the Google card, and expect to be taken seriously.</p>
<p>Tomorrow morning, I could decide to start a business involving leaving old banana peels outside my door.  Do I know how I will make money?  Nope!  But I suppose I should take heart, because Google didn&#8217;t know either!  Who needs a plan?  Perhaps I should just retire now.</p>
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		<title>By: Shanti Braford</title>
		<link>http://web1979.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/a-vc-gone-mad/#comment-880</link>
		<dc:creator>Shanti Braford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google didn&#039;t have a business model for what... 3, 4 years?

Google Mini (or something like it) we know now is a total joke compared to Google&#039;s search / contextual ad revenue.

Twitter could easily transition to a profitable company, if they play their cards right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google didn&#8217;t have a business model for what&#8230; 3, 4 years?</p>
<p>Google Mini (or something like it) we know now is a total joke compared to Google&#8217;s search / contextual ad revenue.</p>
<p>Twitter could easily transition to a profitable company, if they play their cards right.</p>
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		<title>By: Petteri Koponen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petteri Koponen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, I need to correct one small mistake in your post: Jaiku has an open API (and has had it for some months) and over 30 3rd-party projects ranging form simple JavaScript libraries to advanced desktop clients such as Juhu for OSX. We also have a number of 3rd-party mobile clients such as a native Blacberry client called JaikuBerry and the Jaiku WidSets widget (implemented by Nokia).

I might be slightly biased :), but I truly believe that inventing potentially viable business models is certainly possible for all the microblogging services. However, since the whole category is relatively new, most likely there will be a lot of experiments until the 2-3 working models are found.

Interesting discussion! It is nice to see that Twitter found cool investors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, I need to correct one small mistake in your post: Jaiku has an open API (and has had it for some months) and over 30 3rd-party projects ranging form simple JavaScript libraries to advanced desktop clients such as Juhu for OSX. We also have a number of 3rd-party mobile clients such as a native Blacberry client called JaikuBerry and the Jaiku WidSets widget (implemented by Nokia).</p>
<p>I might be slightly biased <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> , but I truly believe that inventing potentially viable business models is certainly possible for all the microblogging services. However, since the whole category is relatively new, most likely there will be a lot of experiments until the 2-3 working models are found.</p>
<p>Interesting discussion! It is nice to see that Twitter found cool investors.</p>
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